Interview with Zuul 2013
by Bradley Smith

 

Your latest album, To the Frontlines, is showing no mercy in the underground right now.  Can you tell me a little about its creation?  How does it differ from Out Of Time?  What lessons did you learn from recording Out Of Time that you applied to these recording sessions?

 

Z-I guess we didn’t learn much as it took us a year again to finish it hah!    It was recorded in two main sessions at two different locations.  Then additional parts were recorded in two other locations.  All are documented in photo in the layout of the album.  It’s different because we changed up the tempos a bit and let the songs breathe more.  But it’s not too much different, it still sounds like Zuul.  To The Frontlines is a natural progression from Out of Time.

 

Zuul did a split with Bible of the Devil.  How did that come about?  Are you guys friends with Bible of the Devil?  If they were to describe you, what would they say?  And how would you describe them?

 

Z-They would say, “waste of time”.  To describe them, I’d say, “parched”.  Jared’s old band The Hateful Dead, and Bob and Jared’s other band, It Burns, used to play shows with them and Bible came down to Carbondale a lot early in their career.  When Zuul started playing out, eventually we started playing shows together.  We developed a good friendship between the bands.  Did a small tour together.  I’ve probably seen them live more than any other band now haha  And live they don’t disappoint.  It just made sense for us to split some wax together and it was a good result.  We also released the Bible of the Devil/Winterhawk split 7”.  Quite good as well!

 

Your debut album Out Of Time has been out for a while now.  How was it received?  What was the most inaccurate/funny/ridiculous thing you heard about Zuul or the music on the album since its release?  When you look back at the music on that album, how do you view your musical abilities as a band and is there anything you would change about it?

 

Z-It was received rather well, way better than we expected.  Not everything was positive of course.  The most ridiculous thing was some shitty website making fun of the name or something.  Looking back on it I think it captured the excitement we felt as a band making those songs.  There’s plenty of things we could change with it but it’s not something we think about. 

 

In another interview I read that Zuul started after Mike played Bob a taped collection of NWOBHM songs.  Is that true?  What bands/songs were on that tape and what bands do you think best exemplify NWOBHM? 

 

Z-It was a tape of “Unsung NWOBHM Heroes” that a friend, Alan Coulson, made for me and some other message board inhabitants in the early 2000’s or late 90’s.  It was an eye opener.  It had 7” tracks by Blitzkrieg, Virtue, Bashful Alley, Persian Risk, Desolation Angels, Trespass, and others on it.  Highly influential to this band as it was the common bond as far as influences go.  The story is basically true.  I don’t think the NWOBHM influence is as strong these days on us as people tend to think though.  There is a lot of great Metal that has a much higher influence now than the bands of that movement.

 

I also read that when Zuul was starting up that Carbondale was essentially the “Meth metal” capitol of the world.  Heh heh, anyways, what is Meth Metal and is it still the same there?  Or has a decent scene started to grow?

 

Z-Bob must have said that, who knows what it means haha  There is no Heavy Metal scene in Carbondale.  There’s a few borderline bands, and bands that are heavy, but not exactly Heavy Metal.  Carbondale is a very musical town though.  There are plenty of good bands here and that’s all we really have here besides some cool nature spots and cheap beer.  Fairly lame town overall but it has its moments.

 

Touring as 4 dudes in a van, was it the experience you had pictured before you undertook the tour, are you “living the dream?”

 

Z-5 dudes!  Most of the time.  “Waste of Time” kind of deals with the subject and how it affects people in the band.  Touring isn’t easy but it can be fun.  You get to know each other better and can bond in that respect and on the flipside you can’t wait to get off the tour and be alone after it is over haha  It’s a good feeling becoming tighter musically as a band as the days go on.  If the drives aren’t too long it is ok but the longer the drive the harder it is to enjoy it.  Something stupid happens usually at some point and that can either be a good thing or a bad thing.  All in all it has its ups and downs but as long as you are reaching people and getting to play your music it is worth it.

 

How has it been working with Planet Metal?  Is it cool working with Chris knowing that he is in some killer bands, most notably, High Spirits? 

 

Z-I’ve known Chris for at least 13 years now so it doesn’t affect me knowing he does cool stuff.  He’s a friend and any success he has I know is well deserved because I know he’s worked hard to get where he’s at.  It’s comfortable working with Chris, and we enjoy working with him as a friend and a peer.

 

Since you guys are from Illinois you get a lot of association with the Chicago metal scene.  With Chicago currently being the center of the gun control debate due to high gun violence rates I was wondering your opinion on the whole issue?  Which side of the issue do you stand on, or does it even matter to you at all?  Why?

 

Z-Don’t care.  Not going to talk politics .

 

With the song Skullsplitter and multiple references to beer, what are your thoughts on American beer culture?  The Europeans a lot of times look down on American beer, but what do you think?  And how do you think America compares to European beers?

 

Z-I personally quit drinking recently but when I did I loved American beer.  Not the usual Budweiser(sorry Brett!), Miller, Busch, blah blah blah…but the craft beers are where it is at!  It’s a great time for beer makers and beer drinkers.  A revolution for the palate.  No longer do you have to drink whatever the big boys are making, you can drink according to what tastes best to you. 

 

I think Europeans change their mind when they get to sample some of the craft beers here.  I think American beers blow away the European beers.  I got to sample some of their’s last year when High Spirits was in Germany, Denmark, and Sweden, and I wasn’t very impressed.  I couldn’t wait to get back and drink some IPA’s.  They were ok for what they were but beers under 5% don’t cut it anymore haha

 

So what are your upcoming plans for Zuul?  Any important shows or new music we should be aware of?  Or are you guys going to just take it easy and rest on your laurels? 

 

Z-We’d love to take it easy but that is not the way we are.  We are always writing new music and that will probably be the focus for the next months.  No important shows to speak of as of now but an East Coast run in being planned for September, keep an eye out of details as they come together.

 

Thanks again for the interview.  Leave us with some profound messages to get your fans through all those smoldering nights.

 

Thanks, Brad, for the interest and thanks to those who happen to read this and take interest.  Get in touch with us zuulbooking@yahoo.com for merch, or if you want to see us in your town.  We also have a small label with some cool titles for people to check out.  Our facebook page is here https://www.facebook.com/#!/OnslaughtOfSteelRecords?fref=ts You can email us at the same address for questions regarding Onslaught of Steel.  thanks!